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Thorsten 54

Name

Distribution map of property and lordships associated with this name in DB

List of property and lordships associated with this name in DB

Subtenant in 1086

Shire	Phil. ref.	Vill	DB Spelling	Holder 1066	Lord 1066	Tenant-in-Chief 1086	1086 Subtenant	Fiscal Value	1066 Value	1086 Value	Conf.	Show on Map
Shire Yorkshire	Phil. ref. 24W12	Vill Copgrove	DB Spelling Tursten	Holder 1066 Gospatric son of Arnkil	Lord 1066 -	Tenant-in-Chief 1086 Erneis de Buron	1086 Subtenant Thorsten	Fiscal Value 6.00	1066 Value 1.00	1086 Value 0.80	Confidence C	Map
Totals								Fiscal Value	1066 Value	1086 Value

Profile

The Norman lord Erneis de Buron had a tenant called Turstan at Copgrove, 20 miles north-west of York in the low hills between Nidderdale and lower Wensleydale. The spelling points to the English name Thorsten rather than the Norman Thurstan, which in DB was invariably spelled –stin(us) and not –stan.

The manor was assessed at 6 carucates and had land for 3 ploughs. Thorsten had 1 plough in demesne in 1086 and his 7 villan tenants a second plough; the value had fallen from 20s. TRE to 16s. in 1086.

The suggestion has been made that this man was identical with Erneis de Buron’s tenant Thurstan (Turstinus), who in 1086 held two small manors in north Lincolnshire at Messingham and Kettleby. Although not entirely out of the question, it is not supported by any evidence that the manors concerned descended together after 1086 (Clay 1955: pp. 23, 26, 62).

Bibliography

Clay 1955: Early Yorkshire Charters, X: The Trussebut Fee, with some charters of the Ros fee, ed. Charles Travis Clay, Yorkshire Archaeological Society Record Series Extra Series 8 (1955)